I've never found it easy for a group to all agree on everything together. Even a much smaller group. It devolves into arguing and personalities clashing.
I think it's always like that at first. My friends and I used to fight over everything, even when we voted. Even when we ended up doing what the winning side wanted, they'd still end up starting fights about it.
... We got better, but I doubt this many people will adapt as well as a small group would.
Mine too... it's always bickering. I'm not sure it has gotten better over time, either. It made me realize how important it is to make decisions for yourself, instead of trying to appease other people.
[whether or not this is related to her sadly talking about how all her friendships might be over, who can say.]
[she listens to this like she's hearing someone very wise.]
Whether they listen or not, if the leader makes the decision, then that's how it has to be. It's only when everyone listens to someone who hasn't earned the right to decide that there's a problem.
[ash is clearly talking about her own regrets but she's too lost in the sauce.]
For us, it's Orym. Everyone always listens to Orym, so he thinks he can do whatever he wants. Even carry around a cursed sword that was used to kill some of us.
There should be a way to tell each other what you're worried about without lashing out. Trying to bottle it up will just make people snap at each other and get angrier when they do finally speak up.
And no one likes to be disagreed with or to have people mad at them, but—I think that's part of being a leader.
We got in a fight, before I left. Orym and I did. He was so angry at me, and others wanted me to apologize, but. I didn't want to sit around and be scolded when he was the one who was wrong.
Disagreements will still happen... Even if you talk it out right away, people disagree and feel strongly about things.
Maybe it would be better if the two of you talked it out without the others? But it's hard to talk to someone who's too angry. [ like she's not quite dumb enough to just assume every problem can be worked through. sometimes they probably just. can't? ]
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If you see eye-to-eye with your partner, at least you'd only have to worry about each other.
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... We got better, but I doubt this many people will adapt as well as a small group would.
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Mine too... it's always bickering. I'm not sure it has gotten better over time, either. It made me realize how important it is to make decisions for yourself, instead of trying to appease other people.
[whether or not this is related to her sadly talking about how all her friendships might be over, who can say.]
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anyway no ash is sure that she's right and any social collapse is just everyone else being wrong probably. ]
That's what a leader is for. They step in and make the final decision, whether everyone likes it or not.
... But that requires everyone listening to them, so.
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Whether they listen or not, if the leader makes the decision, then that's how it has to be. It's only when everyone listens to someone who hasn't earned the right to decide that there's a problem.
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[ash is clearly talking about her own regrets but she's too lost in the sauce.]
For us, it's Orym. Everyone always listens to Orym, so he thinks he can do whatever he wants. Even carry around a cursed sword that was used to kill some of us.
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What? Why would anyone keep listening to him, then?
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He's changed recently. He wasn't always so stubborn.
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So like you used to be able to kind of take votes, but now he just does things without input?
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[she goes a little quiet at that.]
Do you think so? I don't really like conflict. I hate it when people are angry at me.
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And no one likes to be disagreed with or to have people mad at them, but—I think that's part of being a leader.
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...Orym is very kind.
[maybe she just got angry with him without giving him the chance to talk. he still tried to.]
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I mean... It probably varies from group to group though.
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[but she thinks ash was probably right.]
...I don't want them to hate me, but I don't think they understand.
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Otherwise you're all just going to be upset by yourselves.
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[...]
We got in a fight, before I left. Orym and I did. He was so angry at me, and others wanted me to apologize, but. I didn't want to sit around and be scolded when he was the one who was wrong.
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Maybe it would be better if the two of you talked it out without the others? But it's hard to talk to someone who's too angry. [ like she's not quite dumb enough to just assume every problem can be worked through. sometimes they probably just. can't? ]
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I don't like being around people who are angry with me. But...maybe.
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